ok.. so i know this is probably not the best thing to start a blog off with to get readers, and manuel's probably going to be thinking, oh dear god, what have i unleashed?... but ive just wanted to put this down on paper (or the equivalent) for a while now. so i warn you, if you're not at all interested in western religion, you can pass this post up, but if yer at all intrigued by what godboy might have to say, stick around for a bit..
ok.. so a lot of you might know that i went to a religious school my first year of college in cali, what an experience, but most of you might not know that before coming up to washington, my whole school experience was in private schools, so yes, that means that in my whole school career, i've attended god school longer than ive gone to public schools, including all college...
so anyway.. my feelings are that... the only to really get to know something is to know all the angles... isnt that was a scientist does? so anyway.. i just want to say that it pisses me off with all these people talking about how religion doesnt exsist, or the people talking about how God works in mysterious ways, when they dont even know, or dont want to know the other side! buffoonery! so im not saying that im a scholar in either of these two categories, religion & science, but i have been lucky enough to have been taught and studied both... what i mean, is yes, i was the over-achiever that memorized the bible verses every sunday and could probably right now quote all the books of the bible, and all that other trivial stuff, but i do think i have some background.. the same goes for science
so i guess what i want to do is look at a couple areas that are in constant conflict between these two rival groups. first off... creationism.. ok.. so adam and eve.. my theory on this is that this is just a story thats been passed down, what culture doesnt have these? ok. so these people lived in mesopotamia, the fertile crescent, between the tigris and euphrates river, now present day iraq, and they are hunter/gatherers, much like how life is depicted in the garden of eden... but for one reason or another, be it famine or rival groups pushing them out.. they move to a agrarian lifestyle, plowing the fields... although biblically, traditionally people say that this was 5000 years ago according to some guy that went through all the genealogy in the book of numbers to get this, i believe that the actual time frame of this is roughly 9000BC, when theres first evidence of farming in this area...
another thing thats always brought up by first graders is... how did adam and eve populate so much into the 6 billion we have today?
well.. according to teachers back in the day, incest. yes, adam piped eve, then came cane and able, but able got his shit rocked, so it was just cane. then came seth... so theres possiblities here.. either cane and seth boinked their mom for fucking prehistoric case of oedipian mishaps, or they waited for adams daughther in which case they got with her.. therefore today modern man should all look something like that of what comes out on the inbred monarchies of europe, i.e. prince charles... so as you see, i dont condone that idea..
other stories in the bible.. noah and the ark? yeah, i dont even know what i can say about that, but i have herd that they think they found it up on Mt. anarak in turkey, but the government wont allow anyone to investigate, so for all anyone knows, that think could just as well be uncle-fucking-toms cabin....
which brings me to another point.. christianity has seemed to lose its effect because of how its continually molded over the centuries... want me to expound? ok... lets see.. the god of the old testament was a vengeful, smiting god... there were brutal stories of him condoning war, and harsh punishments that seem unfair.. examples: two kids are making fun of the prophet elijah... so god does this miracle, and bears come out of the woods and eat these kids alive... another.. god doesnt allow moses into the promise land simply because he went against gods will by hitting a rock instead of talking to it like he was told.. so basically the poor guy walked in the desert for 40 yrs after having the good life of being the pharohs son...
ok.. moving on.. then... the god of the new testament becomes this loving caring guy thats all about "do unto others as you would have them do to you" and shit like, "the fruit of the spirit are love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control" ....what a total change!!! my theory on this is that religion is basically just a prelim to what eventually came law... like in the old testament, people were scared shitless to do anything bad because of the eternal damnation they'd have to face, and religion even gave X commandments.... and in the new testament, law was already prevelent, so it merely turned into a moral issue... of how to be good to everyone around you... ok, and now zoom ahead into the future again, and now around 650, christianity morphs yet again, when muhammed comes along and unites the squabbling arab tribes and forms one of the greatest empires... yet again, another way of contolling people... down the road again, the 1150's, byzantine and rome fight over whether god should be represented in a material form, and those two break off into catholicism and eastern orthodox... then! this catholicism gets way out of hand every hundred years or so, becoming somewhat of a political power gaining property and wealth and becoming corrupt with many different reforms within the religion until the early 1500s when martin luther steps up and makes another jump to split the church again and create hundreds of different sects.. now what the hell is this? ... i dont even want to try..
i just see christianity as changing as society does.. people changing it to fit life around them and to have it survive, the popes have made up so many rules to change the religion over just a couple centuries... it started out as a way to keep people in line, and now possibly, with rule and regulations that no one could possibly memorize, religion might quite possibly be out-dated now too....
another topic of debate... creationism's foe... evolution.. ok, so out there in the creationists, there are those who believe in evolution between the species that we have today, such as darwins find of those birds that were once able to reproduce, but now after being seperated on their respective islands and forming different beaks for different purposes, these guys can no longer make babies together... ok, back on the subject... for the longest time, there was one piece of evidence that creationists used that i couldnt see anyway around.. and thats entropy.. ya know, things tend to fall apart.. they prefer the most simple way.. chaos... i knew this was meant for only a closed system, but not until recently did someone tell me that our solar system isnt closed, because of the continual energy given off by the sun... so yeah.. i guess now it makes sense... its still hard to see how a unicellular organism can come out to be us.. but i guess in the 4.6 billion years given for trial and error, theres a lot of room there.. i mean nature did make its fuck-ups... like the platypus.. (i feel im stealing this from dogma, that just occured to me, but i assure you this was my own analogy, unless subconciously i reverted back to the movie)anyway.. the platypus... this guys all kinds of fucked up.. and i just want to see if anyone is reading this.. so here.. everyone knows theres a set of requirements for being mammal... this guy doesnt really break one (unless they lay eggs, i cant remember) but theres a quirk to one of these requirements, so the first person to guess it, i'll give 'em 5 bucks, and if they do lay eggs, thats not the one im talking about... guess mine!
ok.. so evolution... the other thing other than entropy that intrigued me was, i always wanted to see a creationists view on early human species, ya know, austrelopithesis, and homo habilis, (my personal favorite)heidelbergensis, erectus, antecessor, neandertalensis, and of course sapien. did you know that scientists are now starting to believe that neandertals are actually not even on the homo sapien lineage, and that they were an offshoot about three or so homos back? so although they lived at the same time as us, they were only distantly related... anyway.. i want to see how creationists explain precursors to modern humans.. if theyre some kind of extinct ape and theres not enough proof to show theyre actually human, or what.
... ok so you ask me.. do i believe in god? well.. i dont know.. and im ok with that i dont know.. because frankly i dont want to be known as agnostic.. i mean whats that "not knowing" theyre bullheaded people anyway that just push aside anything remotely religious.. they dont want to explore it, because they think they know.. the same can be said about christians.. they think they know how things go, so why look at alternatives?
... so i dont know if theres a God, but i will tell you that if there is, then if/when you read the bible... dont take it literally.. its all metaphoric... i dislike the people that say "oh! gods wonderful hand was layed on all of us, cant you see?" i dont think he is an active god.. he may be omnipotent and omnipresent, but hes not down giving the helping hand.. people ask, "why does god allow this?" homeboys just kickin back watching, if anything.
i may have missed a few topics i wanted to touch on, but i'm sure this is long enough, right manuel? i assure you that this will be the only of its kind, cuz i just wanted to set a few things straight... most people dont know how they feel about religion.. but i'll tell you that ive gone through all the lectures and experiences, and i come out with .. i dont know.. but i can say that i take the bible metaphorically, meaning probably not all those big miracles, and yes, man came from a damn monkey...
sorry this was ass long.. i'll tone it down.. thanx ya'll
ok.. so a lot of you might know that i went to a religious school my first year of college in cali, what an experience, but most of you might not know that before coming up to washington, my whole school experience was in private schools, so yes, that means that in my whole school career, i've attended god school longer than ive gone to public schools, including all college...
so anyway.. my feelings are that... the only to really get to know something is to know all the angles... isnt that was a scientist does? so anyway.. i just want to say that it pisses me off with all these people talking about how religion doesnt exsist, or the people talking about how God works in mysterious ways, when they dont even know, or dont want to know the other side! buffoonery! so im not saying that im a scholar in either of these two categories, religion & science, but i have been lucky enough to have been taught and studied both... what i mean, is yes, i was the over-achiever that memorized the bible verses every sunday and could probably right now quote all the books of the bible, and all that other trivial stuff, but i do think i have some background.. the same goes for science
so i guess what i want to do is look at a couple areas that are in constant conflict between these two rival groups. first off... creationism.. ok.. so adam and eve.. my theory on this is that this is just a story thats been passed down, what culture doesnt have these? ok. so these people lived in mesopotamia, the fertile crescent, between the tigris and euphrates river, now present day iraq, and they are hunter/gatherers, much like how life is depicted in the garden of eden... but for one reason or another, be it famine or rival groups pushing them out.. they move to a agrarian lifestyle, plowing the fields... although biblically, traditionally people say that this was 5000 years ago according to some guy that went through all the genealogy in the book of numbers to get this, i believe that the actual time frame of this is roughly 9000BC, when theres first evidence of farming in this area...
another thing thats always brought up by first graders is... how did adam and eve populate so much into the 6 billion we have today?
well.. according to teachers back in the day, incest. yes, adam piped eve, then came cane and able, but able got his shit rocked, so it was just cane. then came seth... so theres possiblities here.. either cane and seth boinked their mom for fucking prehistoric case of oedipian mishaps, or they waited for adams daughther in which case they got with her.. therefore today modern man should all look something like that of what comes out on the inbred monarchies of europe, i.e. prince charles... so as you see, i dont condone that idea..
other stories in the bible.. noah and the ark? yeah, i dont even know what i can say about that, but i have herd that they think they found it up on Mt. anarak in turkey, but the government wont allow anyone to investigate, so for all anyone knows, that think could just as well be uncle-fucking-toms cabin....
which brings me to another point.. christianity has seemed to lose its effect because of how its continually molded over the centuries... want me to expound? ok... lets see.. the god of the old testament was a vengeful, smiting god... there were brutal stories of him condoning war, and harsh punishments that seem unfair.. examples: two kids are making fun of the prophet elijah... so god does this miracle, and bears come out of the woods and eat these kids alive... another.. god doesnt allow moses into the promise land simply because he went against gods will by hitting a rock instead of talking to it like he was told.. so basically the poor guy walked in the desert for 40 yrs after having the good life of being the pharohs son...
ok.. moving on.. then... the god of the new testament becomes this loving caring guy thats all about "do unto others as you would have them do to you" and shit like, "the fruit of the spirit are love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control" ....what a total change!!! my theory on this is that religion is basically just a prelim to what eventually came law... like in the old testament, people were scared shitless to do anything bad because of the eternal damnation they'd have to face, and religion even gave X commandments.... and in the new testament, law was already prevelent, so it merely turned into a moral issue... of how to be good to everyone around you... ok, and now zoom ahead into the future again, and now around 650, christianity morphs yet again, when muhammed comes along and unites the squabbling arab tribes and forms one of the greatest empires... yet again, another way of contolling people... down the road again, the 1150's, byzantine and rome fight over whether god should be represented in a material form, and those two break off into catholicism and eastern orthodox... then! this catholicism gets way out of hand every hundred years or so, becoming somewhat of a political power gaining property and wealth and becoming corrupt with many different reforms within the religion until the early 1500s when martin luther steps up and makes another jump to split the church again and create hundreds of different sects.. now what the hell is this? ... i dont even want to try..
i just see christianity as changing as society does.. people changing it to fit life around them and to have it survive, the popes have made up so many rules to change the religion over just a couple centuries... it started out as a way to keep people in line, and now possibly, with rule and regulations that no one could possibly memorize, religion might quite possibly be out-dated now too....
another topic of debate... creationism's foe... evolution.. ok, so out there in the creationists, there are those who believe in evolution between the species that we have today, such as darwins find of those birds that were once able to reproduce, but now after being seperated on their respective islands and forming different beaks for different purposes, these guys can no longer make babies together... ok, back on the subject... for the longest time, there was one piece of evidence that creationists used that i couldnt see anyway around.. and thats entropy.. ya know, things tend to fall apart.. they prefer the most simple way.. chaos... i knew this was meant for only a closed system, but not until recently did someone tell me that our solar system isnt closed, because of the continual energy given off by the sun... so yeah.. i guess now it makes sense... its still hard to see how a unicellular organism can come out to be us.. but i guess in the 4.6 billion years given for trial and error, theres a lot of room there.. i mean nature did make its fuck-ups... like the platypus.. (i feel im stealing this from dogma, that just occured to me, but i assure you this was my own analogy, unless subconciously i reverted back to the movie)anyway.. the platypus... this guys all kinds of fucked up.. and i just want to see if anyone is reading this.. so here.. everyone knows theres a set of requirements for being mammal... this guy doesnt really break one (unless they lay eggs, i cant remember) but theres a quirk to one of these requirements, so the first person to guess it, i'll give 'em 5 bucks, and if they do lay eggs, thats not the one im talking about... guess mine!
ok.. so evolution... the other thing other than entropy that intrigued me was, i always wanted to see a creationists view on early human species, ya know, austrelopithesis, and homo habilis, (my personal favorite)heidelbergensis, erectus, antecessor, neandertalensis, and of course sapien. did you know that scientists are now starting to believe that neandertals are actually not even on the homo sapien lineage, and that they were an offshoot about three or so homos back? so although they lived at the same time as us, they were only distantly related... anyway.. i want to see how creationists explain precursors to modern humans.. if theyre some kind of extinct ape and theres not enough proof to show theyre actually human, or what.
... ok so you ask me.. do i believe in god? well.. i dont know.. and im ok with that i dont know.. because frankly i dont want to be known as agnostic.. i mean whats that "not knowing" theyre bullheaded people anyway that just push aside anything remotely religious.. they dont want to explore it, because they think they know.. the same can be said about christians.. they think they know how things go, so why look at alternatives?
... so i dont know if theres a God, but i will tell you that if there is, then if/when you read the bible... dont take it literally.. its all metaphoric... i dislike the people that say "oh! gods wonderful hand was layed on all of us, cant you see?" i dont think he is an active god.. he may be omnipotent and omnipresent, but hes not down giving the helping hand.. people ask, "why does god allow this?" homeboys just kickin back watching, if anything.
i may have missed a few topics i wanted to touch on, but i'm sure this is long enough, right manuel? i assure you that this will be the only of its kind, cuz i just wanted to set a few things straight... most people dont know how they feel about religion.. but i'll tell you that ive gone through all the lectures and experiences, and i come out with .. i dont know.. but i can say that i take the bible metaphorically, meaning probably not all those big miracles, and yes, man came from a damn monkey...
sorry this was ass long.. i'll tone it down.. thanx ya'll
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